Comments on: Trillian and Responsible Advertising

By: Stephen Johns

Stephen Johns — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:34:54 +0000

I am so glad I found this post. I stumbled across the custom crayon about a year ago and I loved it. But now it is gone. I just finished writing Yahoo and asking them to put it back in. Is it really that important? Yes. Yes it is.

Stephen

By: Person

Person — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 03:59:52 +0000

Do you think you could give me another hint as to finding the custom crayon? I’m just dying to find it and so are my friends but sadly, I’ve never seen The Goonies.

By: Jan

Jan — Sun, 09 Oct 2005 01:20:17 +0000

While most of the IMVironments are really a pain, Doodle is tremendously helpful to me. I teach an online math class (trig) and am able to help students online just as if I was in the same room with them. However, in the past few days the Doodle IMVironment has stopped loading. It just sits there saying “waiting for fried to load doodle” … and it says this on BOTH ends. I have tried it on several computers with different operating systems with the same result. Last year there was a message that said “Doodle has Expired” or something similar. Soon, though, I guess yahoo paid the bill and got it back up and running. Is this the same type of thing? Without Doodle, yahoo is just another messenger program!

By: Niklas Richardson

Niklas Richardson — Sun, 18 Sep 2005 13:08:03 +0000

Bill,

That is exactly the same reason for using Trillian as well. I don’t want to have 4 separate programs installed and running when I can have one integrated piece of software. I have friend on multiple networks, so I want to have a piece of software that gives me a nice integrated environment for communicating across all 4 IM networks.

Now, with Skype, I have had to install a 2nd communication client. It’d be nice if I could use the Skype client with the Yahoo, AOL, MSN and ICQ IM networks! That would be the sweet spot!

Cheers

Niklas

By: elmimmo

elmimmo — Sat, 17 Sep 2005 10:52:52 +0000

Reagrding the “pirating of other’s networks”, I think that networks that do not interact with each other would have been the worst thing that had happened to IM, but I think it is quite worse the fact that some have come to a point to accept that and defend that.

I do not think anyone sees any logic in having four telephone terminals so that all your friends can contact you.

I can’t see the day when Google Talk goes out of beta and other Jabber servers, ISP based, just as with POP and SMTP, that also go through an open network that allows us all to reach each other without having to worry who you signed up with.

No AIM for me. No Yahoo Messenger for me, either. And it has nothing to do with the advertising.

By: Bill

Bill — Sat, 17 Sep 2005 01:31:24 +0000

Justin
It was the IMVs that I was talking about specifically. I definitely don’t see the point in those. I think they would just make reading the messages harder at times.

My issue with most of the IM clients out there are that they do so much more than just IM now-a-days. And If I have to have four (aim,jabber,msn,and yahoo) so that I’m not using a client that is “leaching” off of the work for others I would prefer to have four very lightweight clients.

That is why I use GAIM. I could care less about the presence of advertising. I just dont want four apps each using 5+MB of resources at a time when I can use one that uses roughly 7MB.

I wouldn’t mind downloading, and installing the bigger bloated IM clients – if I could then choose to remove modules from them that did things that don’t relate directly to chat.

Then, if, in the future, I decided I did want to use some of those features, I could just re-add them as I needed them.

This way the avg user still gets the whole kit-and-kaboodle at one time. But those who want to trim the fat can at their leisure. Sort of an opt-out of extra features capability.

Until that happens, or I can’t use an external app that bridges the divide amongst my family/friends I will probably not use a proprietary IM client again. Of course, I am probably in the minority of the IM using public.

By: Justin

Justin — Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:14:10 +0000

Bill, The IMVs are completely modular. They are roughly 200K of file space on your machine, but they don’t install until you try to load the IMV. If you decide that you want to get back that space on your hard drive, feel free to delete the files in C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\imvcache

By: JesterXL

JesterXL — Fri, 16 Sep 2005 19:55:36 +0000

I was actually going to recommend Trillian in your former post, but see you already knew about it.

To me, Trillian isn’t about being an IM client; it’s about allowing me to run 1 vs. 3, and still be connected to everyone.

By: Bill

Bill — Fri, 16 Sep 2005 19:42:22 +0000

I use Gaim and used to use Trillian. If I could convince my entire family to use a specific IM service (and all of my friends) OR if the primary IM service providers allowed for interoperability I would probably use one of their clients.

As it stand now though I want to stay in touch with my family/friends but don’t want to have four applications running to do it.

At the same time, when I’m IMing someone I just want to IM. I don’t to draw, check my email, share photos, etc.. etc.. If the big IM clients out there let you “remove” some of these fluff modules (this way it comes with all that functionality for those that want it, but you aren’t stuck with it) then I would be more willing to have four or five IM apps installed.

Where is the ICQ client of 1995? :O)